{"id":415,"date":"2012-11-12T10:00:27","date_gmt":"2012-11-12T16:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/?p=415"},"modified":"2015-11-08T14:14:38","modified_gmt":"2015-11-08T20:14:38","slug":"lager-beer-redheaded-stepchild-of-homebrewing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/lager-beer-redheaded-stepchild-of-homebrewing\/","title":{"rendered":"Lager Beer &#8211; Redheaded Stepchild of Homebrewing?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ahh, the Internet.&nbsp; It&#8217;s primary usage has changed over the years, from file sharing, to pornography, to movie streaming.&nbsp; But one thing has always been at the fore-front: social interaction.&nbsp; But before the advent of Facebook, there were bulletin boards, newsgroups, and forums (some of which are still in use)&#8230; and all of these discussion outlets, once they hone in on a particular subject or subculture, become cesspools of riotous mobs, ready and willing to press THE CAPSLOCK KEY, and add copious amounts of exclamation marks at will!!!!!!!111one<\/p>\n<p>A friend of mine said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s something about the niche nature of [insert forum topic here] that&nbsp;attracts&nbsp;supercilious and argumentative people.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s right, they also attract and breed elitism. It&#8217;s found in every forum, whether it&#8217;s about <a title=\"Pirate 4x4\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pirate4x4.com\/\">4x4s<\/a> or <a title=\"Drum Corps Planet\" href=\"http:\/\/www.drumcorpsplanet.com\/\">Drum Corps<\/a>, the average tone of the discussion is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Even if you&#8217;re just expressing an opinion, I&#8217;m right and you&#8217;re wrong and I&#8217;m going to flame you into submission!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_446\" class=\"wp-caption thumbnail alignnone\" style=\"width: 500px;\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"thickbox\" rel=\"gallery-415\" title=\"Average niche forum user (replace DCP with forum of choice)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"446\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/lager-beer-redheaded-stepchild-of-homebrewing\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"500,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"average DCP user\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Average niche forum user (replace DCP with forum of choice)&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n.jpg\" class=\"size-full wp-image-446 \" title=\"average DCP user\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/files\/2012\/10\/292767_266615493459813_1561494834_n-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Average niche forum user (replace DCP with forum of choice)<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t<\/figure>\n<h2>WTF does all this have to do with Beer?<\/h2>\n<p>Sadly, this is also prevalent in the homebrewing scene&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t do much homebrewing myself, but I like to help my friend who&#8217;s an avid homebrewer &#8211; particularly if I&#8217;m &#8220;loaning&#8221; my fridge for lagering purposes. When we were looking to make a lager in 2009, I asked my friend about clone recipes and was warned to &nbsp;tread lightly. Homebrew forums were quick to lend a hand with your &#8220;Pete&#8217;s Wicked Ale&#8221; clone, but if you asked about a clone for Miller&nbsp;(heaven forbid), you would surely be met with criticism.<\/p>\n<p>Sure, I understand trying to make Budweiser at home is cost prohibitive, but it&#8217;s not about beating the price &#8211; it&#8217;s about beating the system, and taking a known quantity into a new direction. A clone recipe is merely a starting point to serve as a control experiment. &nbsp;I had the opportunity to talk to Dave of Dave&#8217;s Brew Farm about craft &amp; homebrewers poo-poo-ing lagers in favor of ales, and I noticed he is brewing a lager called Dave&#8217;s Brew Farm Select. To him it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Why make a lager?&#8221; It was &#8220;Why not?&#8221; There&#8217;s a market for those going up against Miller\/Coors &amp; Budweiser &#8211; to offer the masses something that seems familiar, but may also be something new. Other Minnesota brewers understand as well (See <a title=\"Summit Pilsener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.summitbrewing.com\/brews\/pilsener\">Summit Pilsener<\/a> &amp; <a title=\"Surly Beers\" href=\"http:\/\/www.surlybrewing.com\/beer\/year-round-beers.html\">Surly Hell<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>This is not to take anything away from any ale. &nbsp;My favorite all-time beer is probably <a title=\"Summit EPA\" href=\"http:\/\/www.summitbrewing.com\/brews\/extra-pale-ale\">Summit Extra Pale Ale<\/a>&nbsp;&#8211; which I first tried in college. &nbsp;It was a flavor oasis compared to the Busch Light that my college roommates would typically consume every Friday.<\/p>\n<p>So I say to homebrewers that have never lagered&#8230; if you have a spare fridge or freezer, you should try it. &nbsp;Not coincidentally, I&#8217;m working on a programmable (and automated) Arduino temperature controller which can probably be made for less than a&nbsp;<a title=\"Johnson Controls Digital Thermostat Control Unit\" href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/1WHhMYH\">typical temperature regulator<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Also, it seems <a title=\"Light Lager Recipe Database\" href=\"http:\/\/www.homebrewtalk.com\/f57\/\">light lagers<\/a> are gaining some ground in the homebrew arena. &nbsp;Maybe the perceived stigma behind homebrew lagering is being erased?<\/p>\n<div class='kindleWidget kindleLight' ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-content\/plugins\/send-to-kindle\/media\/white-15.png\" \/><span>Send to Kindle<\/span><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ahh, the Internet.&nbsp; It&#8217;s primary usage has changed over the years, from file sharing, to pornography, to movie streaming.&nbsp; But one thing has always been at the fore-front: social interaction.&nbsp; But before the advent of Facebook, there were bulletin boards, newsgroups, and forums (some of which are still in use)&#8230; and all of these discussion&hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/lager-beer-redheaded-stepchild-of-homebrewing\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[36,3],"tags":[37,29,40,39,38],"class_list":["post-415","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-beverages","category-casual","tag-beer","tag-editorial","tag-forums","tag-homebrew","tag-lager"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/415","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=415"}],"version-history":[{"count":19,"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/415\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2144,"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/415\/revisions\/2144"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=415"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=415"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.foell.org\/justin\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=415"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}